[MD] Trance state

[Joseph Maurer]

Hi KO,

I think we speak the same language.  As a singer I am partial to a seven
step evolution with a couple of shocks thrown in when the vibrations slow
down.  Not exactly in the MOQ game, maybe batting practice instead.

Joe


On 11/26/08 11:05 AM, "kieffer odigaunt" <kieffer.odigaunt at googlemail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Joe, thanks for your reply.
> 
> I am not a scientist but from what i have read some genes do last as long as
> the vehicle - the individual; genes are extremely high quality replicators
> that are passed on through very many generations and in that sense they last
> much longer than the individual.
> 
> This is biological evolution - the matter part of the MoQ model.
> Mind has its own evolution which, like a downward ray of creation, forces
> the genes to build better brains.
> 
> -KO
> 
> 2008/11/26 Joseph Maurer <jhmau at sbcglobal.net>
> 
>> Hi KO,
>> 
>> I don't understand the relationship of of short-lived genes to long-lived
>> individual.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>> On 11/26/08 1:19 AM, "kieffer odigaunt" <kieffer.odigaunt at googlemail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> The dynamic aspect of evolution is the variation and mutation of the
>> genes
>>> in successive generations.
>>> The static aspect of evolution is the algorythmic process of replication
>> and
>>> the natural selection of 'better' genes.
>>> Need we ask what is good? No, it is in our bones. This is biological
>>> evolution.
>>> 
>>> -KO
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2008/11/25 Joseph Maurer <jhmau at sbcglobal.net>
>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday 25 March Joe writes:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> Evolution is not a syllogism.  Different levels are involved from lower
>> to
>>>> higher.  The lower has no definition for the higher level, which speaks
>> an
>>>> undefined language to the lower level.  Is mathematics a universal
>>>> language?
>>>> 
>>>> The higher is undefined and cannot enter into a lower syllogism.  Logic
>>>> fails when confronted by reality. Mathematical reality cannot explain
>>>> evolution.  Magnus proposes a dynamic Big Bang to start mathematical
>>>> calculations.  IMO the Social Level lies outside of mathematical
>>>> calculation.  What?  Counting the population doesn¹t matter?  Idiot!  Do
>>>> you
>>>> mean that mathematics does not add to what I know? Idiot!
>>>> 
>>>> Individual consciousness is an existential level of evolution to the
>> social
>>>> level. Individual consciousness starts a parallel octave of evolution of
>> S
>>>> only.  It modifies O (gorilla) for its own purposes.  Intellect, higher
>>>> social, and higher intellectual levels are of S only.   Wait a minute
>>>> intellect is SO, and social is SO. Idiot! You can only train a chimp so
>>>> far.
>>>> So how is metaphysics speaking an undefined language?  How can I know
>> what
>>>> you are talking about? Value!  Mystical value is outside of mathematics.
>>>> Yes, but not very far!  E,G. quantum!  Just far enough to show that
>>>> evolution is not a syllogism.
>>>> 
>>>> There is no therefore in evolution to the social level!  Only an apple
>> and
>>>> sleep!
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>>> On 11/25/08 12:26 PM, "X Acto" <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>> 
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