[MD] Instant Karma

[MarshaV]

KO,

I sometimes pretend to be angry.  I hardly ever am.  But of course 
now that I've said that, I will be tested.

I think the raft parable concerns what should be done once you have 
reached the other shore.  I just pointed out that a raft is useful to 
help get across.

I am very taken by Eastern thought.  I have been since I first read 
Krishnamurti some twenty-five years ago.  I don't know how to explain 
my attraction.  It was intense right from the beginning.

Sorry I didn't mean to confuse you.


Marsha






At 02:56 AM 11/28/2008, you wrote:
>Marsha, i am impressed by your reply - that you didnt react angrily to my
>dismissal of your passage; but i still cannot take anything useful from your
>parable.
>
>-KO
>
>2008/11/27 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>
> > At 01:49 PM 11/27/2008, KO wrote:
> >
> >  Marsha, you know i was referring to Pao-t'ung's message;
> >> all those other shores, true sources, original face, unborn,
> >> free spirits, etc etc - it is too vague.
> >>
> >
> > KO,
> >
> > I presented this quote because it refers to the raft parable, that is,
> > needing assistance until one realizes fully.
> >
> >
> >  And the last two sentences - why does he have to be so
> >> obscure?
> >>
> >
> > Some of the MOQ seems obscure.  Is it?
> >
> >
> >  I suppose if all that stuff doesnt make sense to me that
> >> must mean that i am not spiritual enough, or not
> >> compassionate enough, or not sensitive enough.
> >>
> >
> > Not so.  It may mean that you are not familiar with the raft parable and
> > its association.
> >
> >
> >  I like the Tao Te Ching alright but that passage only
> >> depresses me.
> >>
> >
> > I would imagine that raft comes in many shapes and colors.  The MOQ would
> > be one of them.
> >
> >
> >  I cant give you an interpretation because
> >> the passage is just too inpenetrable for me.
> >>
> >
> > Okay.  I thought there was some in particular you wanted to challenge.
> >
> > (continued below)
> >
> >
> >
> >  2008/11/27 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > KO,
> >> >
> >> > I'd be curious to what message you are questioning, and your
> >> interpretation
> >> > of it?
> >> >
> >> > Marsha
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 05:23 AM 11/27/2008, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Marhsa, are you open to the idea that the message may
> >> >>be misleading, impractical and impossible;
> >>
> >
> > I am open to the fact that the message may be beyond my understanding.  I
> > worry about this.  I sometimes wish I had a teacher, but I've heard RamDas
> > say a teacher will play to the expectations of the 
> student.  -  No, I do not
> > think it is impractical.  Impossible?  Sometimes.
> >
> >
> >  >>  it is scary to cast off ideas that we have clung
> >> >> to for years.
> >>
> >
> > Sometimes it's hard, sometimes it easy.  Sometimes it is hard because it's
> > so easy.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
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