[MD] A Balanced MOQ Society

[Christoffer Ivarsson]

Bodvar


[Bo]
> At times your notion of what the Q-levels are is most trite, that is the
> MOQ seen seen from inside the intellectual level (SOM) where
> "intellect" means "reflecting" or "thinking".  Again, nations are social
> patterns as are their rituals of anthems, flags, monarchs, pledging of
> allegiance oaths ...etc. Even Sweden have those and you would revert
> to that level too if your social base was threatened, but this would be in
> a defense of one that is overlaid by intellectual (democratic) patterns.
> Not the solely social patterned sixteenth century - conquering - would-
> be-superpower  Sweden.


How is my notion of the Q-levels "trite"? I feel mildly insulted :-P My 
definition of the intellectual level is "The Quest for Knowledge" and 
certainly not thinking. More like "thinking for thinking's sake" . You 
confuse me with your SOL-enemies. I rather think that the notion of a 
separate "I" has to come about before the Quest for Knowledge can be born 
completely, and you  and I actually have more in common in terms of 
identifying the levels than not. I think.

And the rest of what your saying.... Yeah? So? All I was saying was that the 
things we hold dear, like democracy and stuff like that, though they may 
work as social institutions that serve the intellectual level (I know that) 
I was saying that they can easily be transformed into just social level 
stuff,  and they will if they become just empty words and institutions and 
the actual intellectual values that made them possible is forgotten  - then 
the social level has a hold aging.  And I actually think that our society 
(yes our countries as well) is fare more social level driven than 
intellectually driven. Mainly that has to do with money though.

Cash is King. You know.


Respectfully

Chris