[MD] Commie Talk and USA bashing?

Christoffer Ivarsson IvarssonChristoffer at hotmail.com
Tue Oct 7 14:19:16 PDT 2008



Chris:
>> Furthermore I would like to point out to everyone that although the 
>> market
>> as such is a social level pattern att it's core, the MOQ talks about
>> balance
>> between the levels, so the reason I speak for a Marxist economy is 
>> because
>> (a) in my book that means a gradual, but complete change in the economic
>> system in order to ensure that intellectual patterns gain supremacy over
>> social ones (I.e that profit never is allowed to dictate what course the
>> human quest for knowledge is to take etc)

Platt:
> Who then will dictate what course the human quest for knowledge is to 
> take?

The intellectual level of course. If the core of that is the Quest for 
Knowledge we need to create a society where that drive can be as free as 
possible without undermining society. See - intellectual freedom.

Chris:
>> and (b) because when a
>> completely
>> free market is allowed to roam free, social level patterns is supreme, to
>> the extent that both intellectual and biological values suffer horribly -
>> the market is that strong a pattern - as we have seen throughout history,
>> all the way back to the Neolithic revolution.

Platt:
> Are you unaware of the horrible human suffering caused by patterns of
> Marxism?

Patterns of Marxism? That's a fun one. I have heard about Cambodia and 
places like that, but really Platt. That has nothing to do with this.  Not 
with what I'm saying. Just like with the MOQ I take the core of Marxism, 
examine it closely and make rational decisions from there.  What I believe 
is that it is possible to change our economic system quite radically if it 
is done over a long period of time, socialism, and that could create the 
balance between the levels that I conclude from the MOQ basics is what we 
should work towards.

And please, no Quotes. Pirsig is not Jesus.
 




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