[MD] Commie Talk and USA bashing?

[Platt Holden]

> Chris:
> >> Furthermore I would like to point out to everyone that although the 
> >> market
> >> as such is a social level pattern att it's core, the MOQ talks about
> >> balance
> >> between the levels, so the reason I speak for a Marxist economy is 
> >> because
> >> (a) in my book that means a gradual, but complete change in the
> economic
> >> system in order to ensure that intellectual patterns gain supremacy
> over
> >> social ones (I.e that profit never is allowed to dictate what course
> the
> >> human quest for knowledge is to take etc)
> 
> Platt:
> > Who then will dictate what course the human quest for knowledge is to 
> > take?
> 
> The intellectual level of course. If the core of that is the Quest for 
> Knowledge we need to create a society where that drive can be as free as
> possible without undermining society. See - intellectual freedom.

Who is to say that someone's quest for knowledge will undermine society? 

> Chris:
> >> and (b) because when a
> >> completely
> >> free market is allowed to roam free, social level patterns is supreme,
> to
> >> the extent that both intellectual and biological values suffer horribly
> -
> >> the market is that strong a pattern - as we have seen throughout
> history,
> >> all the way back to the Neolithic revolution.
> 
> Platt:
> > Are you unaware of the horrible human suffering caused by patterns of
> > Marxism?
> 
> Patterns of Marxism? That's a fun one. I have heard about Cambodia and 
> places like that, but really Platt.
> That has nothing to do with this.  Not
> with what I'm saying. Just like with the MOQ I take the core of Marxism,
> examine it closely and make rational decisions from there.

What is the core of Marxism?

> What I believe
> is that it is possible to change our economic system quite radically if it
> is done over a long period of time, socialism, and that could create the
> balance between the levels that I conclude from the MOQ basics is what we
> should work towards.
> 
> And please, no Quotes. Pirsig is not Jesus.

Are you saying Pirsig doesn't understand his own metaphysics?