[MD] opposing view to zeigeist

[Woods Woods]

[Krimel]
I have found your recent rants on conspiracy and fringe politics amusing.

woods:
    I have found your recent rants on conspiracy and fringe politics amusing.  
    But I have never said anything of a conspiracy is happening.  You seem 
to advocate conspiracy.  Not me.


Krimel:
I don't know where you got the idea I believe in UFO. Or perhaps you could
point me to a time when I referenced a sci-fi magazine. But its OK I am
easily misunderstood. 


woods:
    You talk about it all the time.

Krimel:
The only common feature I can see in your recent spate of fringe posts is
that they seem to originate from the Myth of Control. That would be the idea
that some group of powerful people or beings is manipulating world events
for arcane purposes of their own. You know, messing with economic
institutions, blowing up building, starting wars, worshiping Satan... 


woods:
    I don't know about this.  Never heard of it.  What I do think in regard to 
"economic institutions" is I don't know if these supposed experts know what their 
doing.  Look at the gov't their giving 100's of billions of dollars to the investment firms, such 
as Paulson's old crowd Goldman Sachs.  Sounds like an easy steal.  Let Goldman Sachs fall.  
It made the mistakes.  Responsiblity, dada, and all that jazz.  
    I did find the Theosophy Society freaky to believe in Lucifer and zeigeist believes in 
this stuff.  That's what those that have researched their sources to.  The Theosophy Society is upfront 
about this stuff.  And zeigeist uses their information and believes a World Christ, but at the same time 
believes Christ was false.  That's a bit freaky.  Now how this fits into the larger world, I don't know.  That 
clip brought up people that believe in this stuff and they are in the United Nations.  The United Nations, do 
you really think we could have these all wonderful perfect people running the world in the UN, World Bank, 
and IMF?


Krimel:
I find these views overly optimistic. It would be wonderful if something or
someone actually were in control. If you can nail down such a cabal of
Machiavellians be sure an provide a link, I am ready to sign up with them.

woods:
Starters.  The UN, the G7 (well now that Russias out), World Bank meetings that 
think they can make the world better and they are all elite and high and mighty.  Ever 
hear of Bohemian Grove?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZMlIo0rQK0

   Here's Nader talking about it.  It's a well known meeting place in California for 
corporations, political leaders, U.S. supreme court judges, and who knows who else.  You can 
go there, outside of Bohemian Grove and protest.  People go there and protest whenever 
they get together there, mainly because all of these people are gathering in private, in secret 
and they will not let anybody else in.  They talk and make decisions undoubtedly while there.  What 
decisions are made behind the scenes.  These are powerful people that when on ego 
trips they think they are right and nobody else is right.  Look at Bush.  He gets these ego 
trips often.  I don't want to turn this into a political debate, but he's somebody that 
you can easily see ego-trips and he's in a very powerful position.

Bohemian Grove:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

woods continues:
The manhattan project was started there in idea.  Nixon's road to the presidency had started there.  And 
other things.  He's Nixon on the Bohemian Grove found in the wiki link:

"If I were to choose the speech that gave me the most pleasure and satisfaction in my political career, 
it would be my Lakeside Speech at the Bohemian Grove in July 1967. Because this speech traditionally 
was off the record it received no publicity at the time. But in many important ways it marked the first 
milestone on my road to the presidency." — President Richard Nixon again, in a more mellow mood, 
in hisMemoirs (1978).[9]"


 
woods