[MD] Virtually meaningful?

[MarshaV]

At 03:03 PM 9/10/2008, you wrote:
>[Marsha]
>But besides, SA is NOT this or that.  She/He is an an ever-changing, 
>collection of overlapping, interrelated, inorganic, biological, 
>social and intellectual, static patterns of value.... From 
>nano-second to the next nano-second there is absolutely no 
>consistency.  Any consistency is illusion.
>
>[Arlo asked]
>Would you still feel as if Heather lied?
>
>[Marsha]
>Yes.
>
>[Arlo]
>Makes no sense to me, Marsha.
>
>If "SA" is an ever-changing, collection of overlapping, 
>interrelated... patterns of value" with only the illusion of 
>consistency, then why would this be a lie? Why, if Heather really 
>and fully believes herself to be a female, would you're learning she 
>has male parts change your relationship with her? Again, what if she 
>had those parts removed years ago? Is she a woman then?
>
>I'd gather you think of "Julia" as a lie and of "Mark" as the "real 
>person" despite her absolute self-identity as a female named Julia? 
>You may want to dismiss these questions, Marsha, and I can see why, 
>but they are really pointers to what you feel the "self" is, and 
>what correlates with you between "body" and "self".
>
>I accept you as a woman, Marsha, and if I later learned that your 
>body was that of a male, I'd continue to accept Marsha as a woman. I 
>guess that's where we are different.
>
>With Mark/Julia, I think it demonstrates how physical form has 
>little to no correlation with self-identity, and that the "selves" 
>of others we interact with can have value and meaning and reality 
>apart from the encumbrances of a physiological form.
>
>And really, there is nothing more I can say. Let's just end this, okay?
>


Okay.





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