[MD] Catching up to Pirsig

[MarshaV]

KO,

Yes he is a scientist.  I never totally dis'd or dismissed 
science.  I like science.  I just believe science, even evolution, 
can be challenged.  There is nothing absolute about the current 
scientific points-of-view, and I resent the lack of humility.


Marsha


At 11:02 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:
>And Mr Lovelock is a scientist.
>
>-KO
>
>2009/4/14 MarshaV <marshalz at charter.net>
>
> >
> > Platt,
> >
> > Betterness from the point-of-view of 'this world' as compared to the
> > betterness of DQ's total freedom?  Is this the betterness 
> missing?  Well you
> > may be correct.  There doesn't seem to be any consideration for 
> stability in
> > most of the scientific drive for economic progress.  I like better James
> > Lovelock's Gaia point-of-view, which says that in the end Earth 
> will survive
> > as it is a self-correcting system.  Mr. Lovelock is also optimistic in
> > thinking that there will be humans that survive too.  And the Gaia
> > hypothesis seems more like the MOQ interrelationship between static and
> > dynamic forces.
> >
> >
> > Marsha
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 10:21 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:
> >
> >> Marsha,
> >>
> >> "But static patterns, nevertheless, provide a necessary stabilizing force
> >> to protect Dynamic progress from degeneration. Although Dynamic Quality,
> >> the Quality of freedom, creates this world in which we live, these
> >> patterns
> >> of static quality, the quality of order, preserve our world. Neither
> >> static
> >> nor Dynamic Quality can survive without the other." (Lila, 9)
> >>
> >> Does this passage answer your question?
> >>
> >> Platt
> >>
> >>
> >> > Platt,
> >> >
> >> > Does RMP specifically use the word 'progress'?  Is freedom always
> >> > progress?  From what point-of-view?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Marsha
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 09:11 AM 4/14/2009, you wrote:
> >> > >Hi Marsha, KO, DMB, et al:
> >> > >
> >> > >The big thing missing from current evolution theories and applications
> >> > is
> >> > >any notion of things getting better or, as we MOQer's believe, progress
> >> > >towards greater freedom and versatility. It has always bothered me that
> >> > >precious little attention is paid to ever expanding consciousness over
> >> > time
> >> > >from the first little wiggle of life to the worldly mind of a Mozart or
> >> > an
> >> > >Einstein. In other words, science, totally dependent on measurable
> >> > surface
> >> > >data, has largely been unable to deal with the steady evolutionary
> >> > >expansion of interior awareness, the real indicator of Dynamic
> >> > progress,
> >> > >"Are you better off as a woman than a mouse?" The MOQ answer: "You
> >> > betcha."
> >> > >That's progress!
> >> > >
> >> > >Platt
> >>
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