[MD] the role of woman

[gav]

hiya charybdis,

--- 
> I agree with your point that women
> often put themselves in the position of
> favoring "emotionally retarded men."
> First, a caveat to what you said:  I simply cannot
> accept that women are
> somehow more spiritually pure than men. 

gav: didn't say that. said that they were more yin.


 I think women
> are *socialized* to
> uphold certain aspects of culturally constructed
> femininity, which includes
> being gentle, passive, kind, helpful, and so on.
> 
> However, the societally constructed stereotype of woman is
> not the true
> heart of woman.  A woman is just as capable of having
> darkness in her heart
> or emotional detachment, same as any man.  Abuse by a
> woman is rare, but
> those who have experienced it can tell you that a female
> sociopath is no
> different than a male one. 

again i think you are missing me. in this country there are no shortage of middle aged bitter man-hating women...the irony is that they are more like men themselves.


 I also doubt whether there
> is a true gender
> difference in the numbers of men and women who manifest
> this disorder.  I
> simply think sociopathy is revealed in men more than it is
> in women because
> sociopathic traits are encouraged in men and discouraged in
> women, and men
> simply have more physical freedom to carry out violent
> acts, for they are
> the strongest.
> 
> Back to the topic of the mate choices of women: we are
> socialized to accept
> that men are the emotionally stunted ones (and being
> emotionally stunted is
> not far from emotional death, so it is somewhere on the
> spectrum of
> sociopathic tendencies), the unthinkingly violent ones, the
> ones who should
> show anger before they show pain.  Numerous stories
> show it as the woman's
> role to accept the shortcomings of her mate, because there
> aren't any truly
> good men, and she has to settle.  Even if these
> stories are meant to show
> the humorousness of this situation, it seems to be the case
> that the more
> something is talked about, the more it occurs in
> reality.  Women accept this
> as their plight, even if they think it is wrong.
> 
> What can be done about it?  The most direct solution
> is to change how men
> and women are socialized.

maybe. i would say transcend your socialisation and become your self. and that is a gender neutral goal.

> 
> Regards,
> 
> Charybdis

cheers
gav
> 
> 
> On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> > marsha's post on logos triggered something that came
> up last night in conv
> > with mum and dad, and which is basically the same idea
> as aristophanes'
> > lysistrata.
> >
> > culpability for the horrors of the last few hundred
> years or so falls at
> > the feet of men, directly. however women are not
> absolved here; indirectly
> > they too have perpetuated the situation we are seeing
> reach lemming stage
> > now.
> >
> > woman is naturally more attuned to the earth, to
> nature: she is more yin,
> > more receptive. man is relatively less attuned and
> more prone to analytic
> > extremes, which, divorced from the moderation of
> natural intuition -
> > feelings - can become pathological, both individually
> and societally.
> > but as bill hicks succintly put it, women should 'fuck
> artists'. or as
> > anais puts it, more delicately, she should favour the
> sensitive man.
> >
> > too many women have fucked themselves and helped fuck
> the planet by
> > marrying and having children with mentally
> ill/emotionally retarded males.
> > too many women have chosen fear (fear of being without
> financial support)
> > over love (following their heart over their head).
> >
> > but hey its a salutary lesson. women are now
> recaliming their role as
> > guardians of the earth and humanity; they are becoming
> strong again. they
> > need to support *one another*:  a true
> sisterhood, not a feminist
> > pseaudomasculine reactive stance: a wisdom tradition
> reclaimed.
> >
> > remember it was men that slaughtered millions of you
> in the name of god and
> > jesus.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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