[MD] the role of woman

Charybdis charybdisxv at gmail.com
Mon Aug 10 10:49:10 PDT 2009


I agree with your point that women often put themselves in the position of
favoring "emotionally retarded men."
First, a caveat to what you said:  I simply cannot accept that women are
somehow more spiritually pure than men.  I think women are *socialized* to
uphold certain aspects of culturally constructed femininity, which includes
being gentle, passive, kind, helpful, and so on.

However, the societally constructed stereotype of woman is not the true
heart of woman.  A woman is just as capable of having darkness in her heart
or emotional detachment, same as any man.  Abuse by a woman is rare, but
those who have experienced it can tell you that a female sociopath is no
different than a male one.  I also doubt whether there is a true gender
difference in the numbers of men and women who manifest this disorder.  I
simply think sociopathy is revealed in men more than it is in women because
sociopathic traits are encouraged in men and discouraged in women, and men
simply have more physical freedom to carry out violent acts, for they are
the strongest.

Back to the topic of the mate choices of women: we are socialized to accept
that men are the emotionally stunted ones (and being emotionally stunted is
not far from emotional death, so it is somewhere on the spectrum of
sociopathic tendencies), the unthinkingly violent ones, the ones who should
show anger before they show pain.  Numerous stories show it as the woman's
role to accept the shortcomings of her mate, because there aren't any truly
good men, and she has to settle.  Even if these stories are meant to show
the humorousness of this situation, it seems to be the case that the more
something is talked about, the more it occurs in reality.  Women accept this
as their plight, even if they think it is wrong.

What can be done about it?  The most direct solution is to change how men
and women are socialized.

Regards,

Charybdis


On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM, gav <gav_gc at yahoo.com.au> wrote:

>
> marsha's post on logos triggered something that came up last night in conv
> with mum and dad, and which is basically the same idea as aristophanes'
> lysistrata.
>
> culpability for the horrors of the last few hundred years or so falls at
> the feet of men, directly. however women are not absolved here; indirectly
> they too have perpetuated the situation we are seeing reach lemming stage
> now.
>
> woman is naturally more attuned to the earth, to nature: she is more yin,
> more receptive. man is relatively less attuned and more prone to analytic
> extremes, which, divorced from the moderation of natural intuition -
> feelings - can become pathological, both individually and societally.
> but as bill hicks succintly put it, women should 'fuck artists'. or as
> anais puts it, more delicately, she should favour the sensitive man.
>
> too many women have fucked themselves and helped fuck the planet by
> marrying and having children with mentally ill/emotionally retarded males.
> too many women have chosen fear (fear of being without financial support)
> over love (following their heart over their head).
>
> but hey its a salutary lesson. women are now recaliming their role as
> guardians of the earth and humanity; they are becoming strong again. they
> need to support *one another*:  a true sisterhood, not a feminist
> pseaudomasculine reactive stance: a wisdom tradition reclaimed.
>
> remember it was men that slaughtered millions of you in the name of god and
> jesus.
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