[MD] Ironistic Metaphysics

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Bo,
 This is the kind of thing I'm talking about.
How you mis interpret.
If you would have read this quote more carefully,
 "In physics, the Lorentz transformation precisely describes 
    how, according to the theory of special relativity, two observers' 
    varying measurements of space and time can be converted 
    into each other's frame of reference ....."
You will see that it is a calculation which refers specifically
to special relativity, unless you do not understand that special
relativity states that time and space are RELATIVE to the
observer. The lorentz transformation deals with a way in which
to calculate between two observers in a time-space contineum
in which as Ian stated is wrought with holes.

Newtonian physics states that time and space are absolute
and is not relative to the observer.

the lorentz transformation does not apply in any way nor is
it used or developed for the purpose of calculating and converting
from Newtonian to special relativity. It specifically applied to special relativity
and how two observers may share the same perception of the passing
of time and space mathematically. 

-Ron





----- Original Message ----
From: "skutvik at online.no" <skutvik at online.no>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:05:00 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] Ironistic Metaphysics

Ian and Ron

14 Aug. Ian :

> Bo, you sir, are the master of misinformation and a hack. Simply
> muck-spreading a meme.

Thanks a lot, but you bark up the wrong tree. I haven't said a thing 
about Relativity's weirdness, just that the Lorentz equations are used 
for switching between Newton physics and  Relativity and this is a fact 
regardless of what Ron says. He quoted Wiki himself: 

    "In physics, the Lorentz transformation precisely describes 
    how, according to the theory of special relativity, two observers' 
    varying measurements of space and time can be converted 
    into each other's frame of reference ....." 

and it says exactly that even "precisely". Today's physicists do this 
without stopping to think about relativistic weirdness seen from 
Newtonian grounds and vice versa, but when conditions are extreme 
only the former calculations work, elsewhere the Newtonian ditto does 
the job. It brings space crafts to their destinies, but when it comes to 
black holes and such ... alas. There is something similar regarding 
Quantum Physics and Newton's, but I'm a bit "rusty" here.  

The assertion that the SOL is a "Lorentz transformation" between 
SOM and MOQ (between MOQ and its intellectual level) is valid. 
Pirsig's (inorg.+ bio.=objects ..etc.) is a  formula  to link SOM and the 
MOQ, but it fails on several points ... and when Pirsig got more and 
more problems with this he just skipped SOM. But that's impossible, 
SOM or intellect is our static abode, only when things gets "extreme" 
we must apply the MOQ and then some transformation procedure is 
necessary.        

Bodvar

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