[MD] Ironistic Metaphysics

[Ian Glendinning]

Hi Bo,

I wasn't particularly commenting on your idea of the Lorentz & SOM/MOQ
- I can't see it - you were just using it as a metaphorical parallel ?
- Like a Copernican revolution ?

Anyway, Ron got the point - the other part of the wiki quote (not the
bit you re-quote here) was simply wrong. The maths may "work" but it
doesn't mean they are right.

Ian

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:05 AM, <skutvik at online.no> wrote:
> Ian and Ron
>
> 14 Aug. Ian :
>
>> Bo, you sir, are the master of misinformation and a hack. Simply
>> muck-spreading a meme.
>
> Thanks a lot, but you bark up the wrong tree. I haven't said a thing
> about Relativity's weirdness, just that the Lorentz equations are used
> for switching between Newton physics and  Relativity and this is a fact
> regardless of what Ron says. He quoted Wiki himself:
>
>    "In physics, the Lorentz transformation precisely describes
>    how, according to the theory of special relativity, two observers'
>    varying measurements of space and time can be converted
>    into each other's frame of reference ....."
>
> and it says exactly that even "precisely". Today's physicists do this
> without stopping to think about relativistic weirdness seen from
> Newtonian grounds and vice versa, but when conditions are extreme
> only the former calculations work, elsewhere the Newtonian ditto does
> the job. It brings space crafts to their destinies, but when it comes to
> black holes and such ... alas. There is something similar regarding
> Quantum Physics and Newton's, but I'm a bit "rusty" here.
>
> The assertion that the SOL is a "Lorentz transformation" between
> SOM and MOQ (between MOQ and its intellectual level) is valid.
> Pirsig's (inorg.+ bio.=objects ..etc.) is a  formula  to link SOM and the
> MOQ, but it fails on several points ... and when Pirsig got more and
> more problems with this he just skipped SOM. But that's impossible,
> SOM or intellect is our static abode, only when things gets "extreme"
> we must apply the MOQ and then some transformation procedure is
> necessary.
>
> Bodvar
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