[MD] Consciousness (explained?)

[plattholden at gmail.com]

Hey Ham, 

On 19 Aug 2009 at 1:58, Ham Priday wrote:

> One other minor adjustment is necessary to make that sentence conform to my 
> epistemology.  Conscious awareness is a finite reduction or derivative of 
> what I call Sensibility.  So, it isn't Consciousness that "goes all the way 
> down" (because only a creature can be conscious), but the Absolute 
> Sensibility of the primary source.   The same is true with Value, which we 
> do not experience in its "pure" form but only as representative objects and 
> events.  Yet, as value sensible agents, we are all aware of Value by our 
> emotional and intellectual response to it.
> 
> This is why Platt prefers the term "aesthetic sensibility", because he is a 
> connoisseur of art and music.  However, human sensibility encompasses not 
> just aesthetic appreciation but qualitative, quantitative, and moralistic 
> judgments about everthing we experience.  It is the "experience generator", 
> and in that sense value-sensibility is, as Platt says, "the ground of being 
> and creator of the world."  So, although Platt claims to exclude "Ham's 
> metaphysics", his valuistic view of consciousness actually supports it.

Correction: Platt prefers "aesthetic sensibility" because he, while 
enjoying art and music, believes value experience goes much wider and 
deeper. I agree with Pirsig's "preintellectual awareness" explanation 
from ZAMM that DMB reproduced in his Aug. 19 post. It describes the 
source and creative role of aesthetic sensibility. I suggest you read and 
absorb it for a fuller understanding of the MOQ. As for my support of 
your metaphysics I will only agree to it when you change your Essence 
to Quality and reject the business about our being its "agents" so that   
your subject/object premise and philosophical Idealism can be 
maintained

But, it's good to see you moving towards acknowledgment of quality 
reality. 

Warm regards,
Platt