[MD] Salami & Wisdom ?

[MarshaV]

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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of Ian Glendinning
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 2:11 PM
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Subject: Re: [MD] Salami & Wisdom ?

Marsha, Dave, by way of light relief (drivel if you prefer), whenever
anyone quotes a dictionary definition as part of an argument, I give
them this link ...

http://www.ted.com/talks/erin_mckean_redefines_the_dictionary.html

Infectious.
Regards
Ian

On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:58 PM, MarshaV<valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> >From Wiki:
>
> "The term (Relativism) often refers to truth relativism, which is the
> doctrine that there are no absolute truths, i.e., that truth is always
> relative to some particular frame of reference, such as a language or a
> culture."
>
> The MoQ support multiple truths.  Seems to me the frame of reference
within
> the MoQ would be the value.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org
> [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of david buchanan
> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:01 PM
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Salami & Wisdom ?
>
>
> Marsha said:
> Just for the record, I still say the truth of knowledge, which is static
> patterns of value, is still relative to immediate experience.
>
>
> dmb says:
>
> According to my computer's dictionary, the term "relative" has seven
> different definitions. Four of them are adjectives. Three of them are
nouns.
> None of them refers to "relativism". In your sentence above, the term
> "relative" is used to mean that static patterns are "related" to immediate
> experience or that concepts exist in "relation" to immediate experience.
If
> you mean to say that concepts are derived from experience, I'd agree.
> Unfortunately, that has nothing to do with relativism. As the little joke
> about me and my cousin being related to each other was meant to indicate,
as
> the explanation about panrelationalism was meant to indicate, relativism
is
> NOT merely a claim that one thing is related to another - whether than
> relation is genetic or conceptual or anything else. That's just not what
> relativism means. That's just not how people use the term. Well, not
> informed people anyway.
> It's hard to me to believe that you are really THAT confused about what
the
> word means. Don't take my word for it. Look it up.
>
>
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