[MD] Salami & Wisdom ?

[John Carl]

Infectious indeed.   I learned something important from it; lexicographers
are so much more entertaining than philosophers because they have more words
 at their disposal, more to play with.
And this particular one, Erin McKean,  was a much better speaker too.  The
main phrase that grabbed me was, "Love makes things real.  If you love a
word, use it, that makes it real."



On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Ian Glendinning <ian.glendinning at gmail.com
> wrote:

> Marsha, Dave, by way of light relief (drivel if you prefer), whenever
> anyone quotes a dictionary definition as part of an argument, I give
> them this link ...
>
> http://www.ted.com/talks/erin_mckean_redefines_the_dictionary.html
>
> Infectious.
> Regards
> Ian
>
> On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 7:58 PM, MarshaV<valkyr at att.net> wrote:
> > >From Wiki:
> >
> > "The term (Relativism) often refers to truth relativism, which is the
> > doctrine that there are no absolute truths, i.e., that truth is always
> > relative to some particular frame of reference, such as a language or a
> > culture."
> >
> > The MoQ support multiple truths.  Seems to me the frame of reference
> within
> > the MoQ would be the value.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org
> > [mailto:moq_discuss-bounces at lists.moqtalk.org] On Behalf Of david
> buchanan
> > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 1:01 PM
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Salami & Wisdom ?
> >
> >
> > Marsha said:
> > Just for the record, I still say the truth of knowledge, which is static
> > patterns of value, is still relative to immediate experience.
> >
> >
> > dmb says:
> >
> > According to my computer's dictionary, the term "relative" has seven
> > different definitions. Four of them are adjectives. Three of them are
> nouns.
> > None of them refers to "relativism". In your sentence above, the term
> > "relative" is used to mean that static patterns are "related" to
> immediate
> > experience or that concepts exist in "relation" to immediate experience.
> If
> > you mean to say that concepts are derived from experience, I'd agree.
> > Unfortunately, that has nothing to do with relativism. As the little joke
> > about me and my cousin being related to each other was meant to indicate,
> as
> > the explanation about panrelationalism was meant to indicate, relativism
> is
> > NOT merely a claim that one thing is related to another - whether than
> > relation is genetic or conceptual or anything else. That's just not what
> > relativism means. That's just not how people use the term. Well, not
> > informed people anyway.
> > It's hard to me to believe that you are really THAT confused about what
> the
> > word means. Don't take my word for it. Look it up.
> >
> >
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