[MD] Consciousness (explained?)

skutvik at online.no skutvik at online.no
Sat Aug 22 22:34:21 PDT 2009


Hi Craig.

23 Aug. 2009  you asked me:

> Can you explain for me the difference between 'subject/object' 
> & 'the value of subject/object'. 

I always try to write  ".. the value of the subject/object distinction" 
sentence, but after all these years ....  

You know SOM is existence divided between the subjective mind and 
"its" objective world, meaning that objects and subjects are the 
fundamental realities. (for now I leave SOM's notorious internal 
dispute between materialism and idealism that respectively claims to 
be THE reallest, the other a by-product)

The MOQ claims that existence is divided along the DQ/SQ axis and 
then comes the question where inside MOQ's static hierarchy does 
SOM belong? It have to because one must be a complete ---  not to 
realize the enormous value of the said distinction. It is "modernity" no 
less.

You will know that I place it as the intellectual level (all the evidence I 
leave because you know it) but with the DISTINCTION as value - and 
the MOQ only concerned with value  - subjects and objects in 
themselves only exists at the intellectual level. Pirsig's way of 
encasing SOM (you know ?) does not give MOQ any explanatory 
power.         

Any clearer?

Bodvar










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