[MD] Consciousness (explained?)
skutvik at online.no
skutvik at online.no
Sat Aug 22 22:34:21 PDT 2009
Hi Craig.
23 Aug. 2009 you asked me:
> Can you explain for me the difference between 'subject/object'
> & 'the value of subject/object'.
I always try to write ".. the value of the subject/object distinction"
sentence, but after all these years ....
You know SOM is existence divided between the subjective mind and
"its" objective world, meaning that objects and subjects are the
fundamental realities. (for now I leave SOM's notorious internal
dispute between materialism and idealism that respectively claims to
be THE reallest, the other a by-product)
The MOQ claims that existence is divided along the DQ/SQ axis and
then comes the question where inside MOQ's static hierarchy does
SOM belong? It have to because one must be a complete --- not to
realize the enormous value of the said distinction. It is "modernity" no
less.
You will know that I place it as the intellectual level (all the evidence I
leave because you know it) but with the DISTINCTION as value - and
the MOQ only concerned with value - subjects and objects in
themselves only exists at the intellectual level. Pirsig's way of
encasing SOM (you know ?) does not give MOQ any explanatory
power.
Any clearer?
Bodvar
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