[MD] What is SOM?

[John Carl]

On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:41 AM, Steve Peterson <peterson.steve at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi John,
>
> Steve:
> I don't think SOM is a value-free metaphysics at all. It's just that SOM
> has a hard time dealing with values because they don't fit neatly into the
> subjective-objective scheme of things.



Yes you are right. SOM does recognize the existence of subjective values.
But you are also wrong.  SOM has no problem with fitting values into its
worldview - Quality is whatever you like - insert Aristotlian Laughter here.
 SOM assigns values to subjects. And although Ham says there is no other
kind, Pirsig is saying something quite different.



SOM doesn't include the notion that values don't exist, though it does
> include a view of science as a value-free endeavor and Reason as a
> value-free essence.
>
> Well another way of saying "SOM", is "The scientific worldview".  That
"worldview" is what I consider value-free and SOM.  And I'd be willing to
bet that even dmb would back me up on that one.


Thanks,

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