[MD] Overcoming the System

Matt Kundert pirsigaffliction at hotmail.com
Sun Aug 30 10:52:23 PDT 2009


Hi Mr. 2,

Mr. 2 said:
What I hear is a thoughtful questioning of logical reality.

Matt:
Well, that's interesting, but I _specifically_ don't see it 
that way.  If anything, I'm questioning something like 
"logical philosophy"--hasn't my point been that, "Haven't 
we had enough confusion between philosophy and reality?"

Mr. 2 said:
Go find out for yourself.

Matt:
Yeah.  Thanks.  I thought that's what we were always doing.  
Thanks for the encouragement, though I doubt you'll find I 
need it.

And, yes, it is a personal journey.

Matt


> Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:39:41 -0700
> From: markhsmit at aol.com
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Overcoming the System
> 
> Hi Matt,
> What I hear is a thoughtful questioning of logical reality.
> 
> I see it as a personal journey.  If one can find like minded
> philosophers to join in, so much the better.  Much more is
> created though a group.  It would seem to me that any
> encapsulated logical system will have flaws as seen
> from outside such a pattern.  This does not negate
> the philosophy, it simply has taken another path.
> 
> Terms such as life, and nature are no different from God,
> or essence.  They rest on the self.  We have a clash between
> so called objective proof (as typified by the sciences) and 
> subjective proof as typified by philosophy.
> 
> There is also mystical proof, the basis of which is Unbelief.
> This type of proof may be outside both objective and 
> subjective criteria.  It may simply just be.  Certainly don't
> take my word for it, for they are just words.  Go find out
> for yourself.
> 
> Cheers
> Willblake2

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