[MD] Reductionism

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 8 Jul 2009 at 10:19, david buchanan wrote:

> dmb says:
> And yet you are a very smart guy and you understand it better than 
almost everybody else. Ever notice how the worst of the mis-readers are 
forever blaming Pirsig while also completely missing the point and flatly 
contradicting his claims? For example, Bo's claim that the intellectual 
level is equal to SOM flatly contradicts Pirsig's own description of where 
SOM fits into the MOQ. (Pirsig says the first and second levels are 
"objective" while the 3rd and 4th levels are "subjective".) Ham's 
emphasis on subjectivity and Krimel's emphasis on objectivity both show 
that they don't even understand the problem that the MOQ's radical 
empiricism solves. Platt's emphasis on social level values distorts the 
MOQ so that it's FUBAR. These readings aren't even close and yet they 
are among the most stubborn, uncomprehending contributors here. I 
think it is no accident that everyone of them rejects and/or 
misunderstands the MOQ's mysticism and radical empiricism. Without 
that, as I see it, the MOQ can't be understood coherently. I would even 
go so far as to say that this is the only thing that stands between you 
and a completely coherent understanding of the MOQ. Maybe that's why 
it seems I'm so hard on you. You have the intelligence and the 
philosophical background to incorporate this part and so I want to push 
you in such a way that you'll do just that. Maybe that's why I get so 
annoyed when you shrug off that part of the MOQ, cause I think it's the 
element that makes the whole thing work, that makes the MOQ 
coherent. 

[Platt]
The only thing FUBAR is dmb's opinion of himself.