[MD] Another parallel
plattholden at gmail.com
plattholden at gmail.com
Tue Jul 14 09:57:50 PDT 2009
On 14 Jul 2009 at 9:40, X Acto wrote:
> > Platt,
> > That first part was aimed at Bo,
> > But I ask, in reference to my questions to you, is how then , is MoQ
> > expected to make any difference? How is it to give value to a value-less
> > intellectual pattern?
> > I really have a hard time understanding how you can equate MoQ with anti-intellectualism.
> >
> > -Ron
>
> Platt:
> Do you have a hard time understanding this from Pirsig?
>
> "Remember that the central reality of the MOQ is not an object or a
> subject or anything else. It is understood by direct experience only
> and not by reasoning of any kind."
>
> Ron:
> In refence to the question I asked, yes, I do not understand your meaning.
> Again, what does that statement have to do
> with teaching the metaphysics of quality in a classroom? what does that
> statement have to do with it being stated in a classroom setting by a professor?
Do you think classrooms and professors, except for those involved in
the arts, are immersed in SOM? I do, so much so that the MOQ hasn't
gained a foothold in any major university in the U.S. that I know of. The
proof, as they say, is in the pudding. If a professor at Harvard or Yale
wants to teach the MOQ, more power to her. I just wish I could live to
see it.
Platt
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> From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:15:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Another parallel
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> On 14 Jul 2009 at 8:38, X Acto wrote:
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> Platt
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> > ________________________________
> > From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:16:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Another parallel
> >
> > On 14 Jul 2009 at 6:33, X Acto wrote:
> >
> > > These statements are meaningless and exhibit a social level
> > > value of ignorance in the wake of saving face. Like the social level
> > > values of the religios figures you so like to compare yourself to, the
> > > dogmatic blind faith to your own ideals is staggering.
> >
> > I express an opinion and you launch a personal attack. What's with that?
> > And what religious figures do I like to compare myself to?
> >
> > > Platt,
> > > Anthony is an "Academic" does this place him with SOM also?
> > > Does this invalidate everything he has to say about the MoQ?
> > >
> > > If not why not? was the liverpool conference a sham in your eyes?
> >
> > Sure. Anthony is with SOM. So are you. So am I. Whatever anyone
> > says about the MOQ is SOM tainted. But, "getting drunk and picking up
> > bar-ladies and writing metaphysics is a part of life." (Lila, 5)
> >
> > I'm sure the liverpool conference was great for the participants,
> > especially having the privilege of meeting Pirsig in person. I wish I could
> > have been there. But as for the value of the papers presented there,
> > well, for me not much.
>
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