[MD] Another parallel

[X Acto]

Platt,
 That doesent mean that it isn't possible, Anthony is living proof of progress
just Bobs own lifetime. The fact that Pragmatism is taught gives hope too.
Just because objectivism dominates is no reason to abandon academic
learning as a institution.
Platt, if I really did'nt care about what you thought, I would'nt get so emotional
about it, but I do and it does matter to me. Just keep that in mind when I get pissy.
I love you, man.
-Ron


 



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From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [MD] Another parallel

On 14 Jul 2009 at 9:40, X Acto wrote:

> > Platt,
> > That first part was aimed at Bo,
> > But I ask, in reference to my questions to you, is how then , is MoQ
> > expected to make any difference? How is it to give value to a value-less
> > intellectual pattern?
> > I really have a hard time understanding how you can equate MoQ with anti-intellectualism.
> > 
> > -Ron
> 
> Platt:
> Do you have a hard time understanding this from Pirsig?
> 
> "Remember that the central reality of the MOQ is not an object or a 
> subject or anything else. It is understood by direct experience only
> and not by reasoning of any kind." 
> 
> Ron:
> In refence to the question I asked, yes, I do not understand your meaning.
> Again, what does that statement have to do
> with teaching the metaphysics of quality in a classroom? what does that
> statement have to do with it being stated in a classroom setting by a professor?

Do you think classrooms and professors, except for those involved in 
the arts, are immersed in SOM? I do, so much so that the MOQ hasn't 
gained a foothold in any major university in the U.S. that I know of. The 
proof, as they say, is in the pudding. If a professor at Harvard or Yale 
wants to teach the MOQ, more power to her. I just wish I could live to 
see it. 

Platt
  

> ________________________________
> From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 12:15:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [MD] Another parallel
> 
> On 14 Jul 2009 at 8:38, X Acto wrote:
> 
> 
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> 
> Platt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > ________________________________
> > From: "plattholden at gmail.com" <plattholden at gmail.com>
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:16:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Another parallel
> > 
> > On 14 Jul 2009 at 6:33, X Acto wrote:
> > 
> > > These statements are meaningless and exhibit a social level
> > > value of ignorance in the wake of saving face. Like the social level
> > > values of the religios figures you so like to compare yourself to, the
> > > dogmatic blind faith to your own ideals is staggering.
> > 
> > I express an opinion and you launch a personal attack. What's with that? 
> > And what religious figures do I like to compare myself to? 
> > 
> > > Platt, 
> > > Anthony is an "Academic" does this place him with SOM also?
> > > Does this invalidate everything he has to say about the MoQ?
> > > 
> > > If not why not?  was the liverpool conference a sham in your eyes? 
> > 
> > Sure. Anthony is with SOM. So are you. So am I. Whatever anyone 
> > says about the MOQ is SOM tainted.  But, "getting drunk and picking up 
> > bar-ladies and writing metaphysics is a part of life." (Lila, 5)
> > 
> > I'm sure the liverpool conference was great for the participants, 
> > especially having the privilege of meeting Pirsig in person. I wish I could 
> > have been there. But as for the value of the papers presented there, 
> > well, for me not much. 
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