[MD] Another parallel

[Platt Holden]

On Tue, Jul 14, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Dan Glover <daneglover at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Hi John
>
> In Steve Hagen's book Buddhism Plain and Simple he offers a picture of
> "something" and instructs the reader to keep looking at the picture until
> they "see" what it is. His point: you cannot use reason; either you see it
> or you don't. And once you see it, there is no doubt about it. You "know"
> beyond a shadow of reason what it is you're looking at. I think that is
> analogous to what Robert Pirsig is saying. When we're confronted with raw
> unfiltered direct experience we tend to rationalize it away. Reason is a
> static defense mechanism that becomes our central reality. The central
> reality of the MOQ, though, is not reason.
>
> Hope this is reasonable...
>
> Dan
>

Hey Dan,

Right on. A keeper.

Thanks,
Platt





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> ----------------------------------------
> > Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 13:00:07 -0700
> > From: ridgecoyote at gmail.com
> > To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> > Subject: Re: [MD] Another parallel
> >
> >>
> >> "The central reality of the MOQ not an object or a subject of anything
> >> else. It is understood by direct experience only and not by reasoning of
> >> any kind." (LC,132)
> >>
> >
> > Wow. Great dialogue. Lots to think about. But now I'm thinking I may
> > disagree with the Great Man Himself.
> >
> > "ANY reasoning of ANY kind"??? How do you know unless you've tried them
> > all? The act of trying to fit Quality into SOM
> > is a kind of reasoning. The Zen Koan is a kind of reasoning as one
> > wrestles with the S/O split until one is too tired to fight anymore.
> There
> > are lots of kinds of reasonings beyond SOMish ways. You'd have to have
> > some sort of mind in order to comprehend the central reality of the MoQ,
> and
> > a mind without reasoning is like a computer without software. A computer
> > without software is known as a doorstop. A mind without reason is even
> > less.
> >
> > Y'all have to explain that one to me.
> >
> > John the befuddled.
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