[MD] Another parallel

[MarshaV]

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Platt said to Marsha:
Someday we can hope that DMB and his fellow intellect worshipers will come
to realize that intellect cannot determine value.

dmb says:
I don't think intellect can determine value, whatever that means. Intellect
is a kind of value. As Pirsig explains it...
"James said, 'Truth is a species of good, and not, as is usually supposed, a
category distinct from good, and coordinate with it'. He said, 'The true is
the name of whatever proves itself to be good in the way of belief'. 'TRUTH
IS A SPECIES OF GOOD'. That was right on. That was EXACTLY what is meant by
the MOQ. Truth is a static intellectual pattern WITHIN a larger entity
called Quality." (Lila, chapter 29. The emphasis is Pirsig's)

Marsha said:
I do not consider myself anti-intellectual, so why should I respond to such
a charge?
But in the same breath, Marsha also said:
To think too carefully tramples my experience. [AND] I don't give a bunny's
butt what James said, or Dewey, or your professors.

dmb says:
If you're wondering why Ron or I got the impression that you're
anti-intellectual, what drew the charge of anti-intellectualism, I'd just
point to comments like that. 
You might not give a bunny's butt what intellectuals say about the
connection between William James and Zen Buddhism, but I think that if you
were to read the following, you'd see that anti-intellectualism and
exploring the limits of intellect are two completely different things. I
suspect you've confused the two....
http://williamjamesstudies.press.illinois.edu/1.1/krueger.html



[Marsha] 
Oh, you consider yourself and Ron to be intellectuals?  I received a
master's degree and I was an A-student, does that mean I am an intellectual?
No, not an intellectual, I'm not a label.