[MD] anti-intellectualism
John Carl
ridgecoyote at gmail.com
Tue Jul 21 13:47:05 PDT 2009
Nice timely quotes Ron, they bring up a few questions I've got.
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:07 AM, X Acto <xacto at rocketmail.com> wrote:
The Hippie rejection of social and intellectual patterns left just two
> directions to go:
> toward biological quality and toward Dynamic Quality. The revolutionaries
> of the sixties
> thought that since both are antisocial, and since both are
> anti-intellectual, why then they
> must both be the same. That was the mistake.
>
Is "Nature" the same as "biological quality"? I've accumulated enough
problems with the three levels of social, biological and intellectual to
make me want to start anew with Joe's musical scale. I like music.
RMP]
"Quality is nature. The MOQ says there is no spiritual principle in man
that makes knowledge possible. Nature does the whole job"
Besides music, I like nature. In whom we have our very definition and
being. In Deep Ecology, we look for DQ in and through Nature, like the
Taoists.
> More Dynamic foreign cultures are overtaking it and actually invading
> it because it's now incapable of competing. What's coming out of the urban
> slums, where old Victorian
> social moral codes are almost completely destroyed, isn't any new paradise
> the revolutionaries hoped
> for, but a reversion to rule by terror, violence and gang death - the old
> biological might-makes-right
> morality of prehistoric brigandage that primitive societies were set up to
> overcome.Lila ch23
By "more dynamic" I take it to mean they breed more. It is certainly true
that in the industrialized, successful countries, it is the fashion to have
one or fewer children whereas poor countries are full of people wanting to
breed. And I don't think "might makes right" is a biological pattern. I
believe it is social, through and through. The will to dominate others is
of the social level.
> These subject-object
> patterns were never designed for the job of governing society. They're not
> doing it. When they're
> put in the position of controlling society, of setting moral standards and
> declaring values, and
> when they then declare that there are no values and no morals, the result
> isn't progress. The
> result is social catastrophe.
Amen! (Oops. Slipped out.)
> It's this intellectual pattern of amoral 'objectivity' that is to blame for
> the social deterioration
> of America, because it has undermined the static social values necessary to
> prevent deterioration.
> In its condemnation of social repression as the enemy of liberty, it has
> never come forth with a
> single moral principle that distinguishes a Galileo fighting social
> repression from a common
> criminal fighting social repression. It has, as a result, been the champion
> of both. That's
> the root of the problem.
> Lila ch23
Double AMEN!! (ok, that time it was on purpose...)
John from the amen corner
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