[MD] NAP

blue-jay maple libertytree at mail.com
Sun Jun 7 08:29:09 PDT 2009


> [Nick previously]
> I see you have lost the argument and have agreed to bow out.
> 
> [Arlo]
> You aren't putting forth an "argument". Its just "guvmint is bad, mmmkay?".
> There's no dialogue, and anyone who disagrees with you becomes just 
> another bad
> socialist, commie, anti-freedom tyrant (as you evidence in your post).

Nick:
Arlo.  I'm discussing what liberty is.  I'm discussing the non-aggression principle, 
which is an intellectual construct.  If you can debunk the NAP, then I will concede, 
but you have yet to show me how initiating physical coercion upon a person is good.  
So I will continue to think it is immoral and will refrain from coercing any individuals.

 
> [Nick previously]
> Since you are for physical coercion Ian, just stay off my property and we'll
> do just fine, but if ever try to come near me I'll be keeping a close eye on
> you.  You're dangerous Ian.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Sounds like you're a whole lot more into "physical coercion" than 
> Ian. Just how to you plan to keep that "property" of yours? The guns of the police? Your own
> guns?

    As I explained, the NAP is the non-aggression principle, and as I explained liberty is 
present when no INITIATION of physical coercion has happened.  Everything I write is 
intellectually given tremendous care.  So don't be concerned Arlo, I've already thought this 
through and have been in way more difficult challenges than what has been put on my plate 
in the forum thus far.
    Since Ian advocates and you do as well, the initiation of physical coercion, then it is him 
and you that freely violate liberty.  If Ian steps onto my property with his intent on physically 
coercing me, then I have ever right to enact self-defense.  Self-defense is not the INITIATION 
of physical coercion.  It is not I forcing anything upon the other person.  It is they forcing their 
moral values upon me as they threaten and thus quite possibly will enact physical coercion 
upon me.  I value life and will not let anybody come up to me and just kill me.  I'm not 
sadistically perverted.



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