[MD] NAP

[MarshaV]

Intellectual construct?


While sustaining biological and social patterns
Kill all intellectual patterns.
Kill them completely
And then follow Dynamic Quality
And morality will be served.





At 11:29 AM 6/7/2009, you wrote:

> > [Nick previously]
> > I see you have lost the argument and have agreed to bow out.
> >
> > [Arlo]
> > You aren't putting forth an "argument". Its just "guvmint is bad, mmmkay?".
> > There's no dialogue, and anyone who disagrees with you becomes just
> > another bad
> > socialist, commie, anti-freedom tyrant (as you evidence in your post).
>
>Nick:
>Arlo.  I'm discussing what liberty is.  I'm discussing the 
>non-aggression principle,
>which is an intellectual construct.  If you can debunk the NAP, then 
>I will concede,
>but you have yet to show me how initiating physical coercion upon a 
>person is good.
>So I will continue to think it is immoral and will refrain from 
>coercing any individuals.
>
>
> > [Nick previously]
> > Since you are for physical coercion Ian, just stay off my 
> property and we'll
> > do just fine, but if ever try to come near me I'll be keeping a 
> close eye on
> > you.  You're dangerous Ian.
> >
> > [Arlo]
> > Sounds like you're a whole lot more into "physical coercion" than
> > Ian. Just how to you plan to keep that "property" of yours? The 
> guns of the police? Your own
> > guns?
>
>     As I explained, the NAP is the non-aggression principle, and as 
> I explained liberty is
>present when no INITIATION of physical coercion has 
>happened.  Everything I write is
>intellectually given tremendous care.  So don't be concerned Arlo, 
>I've already thought this
>through and have been in way more difficult challenges than what has 
>been put on my plate
>in the forum thus far.
>     Since Ian advocates and you do as well, the initiation of 
> physical coercion, then it is him
>and you that freely violate liberty.  If Ian steps onto my property 
>with his intent on physically
>coercing me, then I have ever right to enact 
>self-defense.  Self-defense is not the INITIATION
>of physical coercion.  It is not I forcing anything upon the other 
>person.  It is they forcing their
>moral values upon me as they threaten and thus quite possibly will 
>enact physical coercion
>upon me.  I value life and will not let anybody come up to me and 
>just kill me.  I'm not
>sadistically perverted.
>
>
>
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