[MD] NAP

[X Acto]

Nick,
You use the terms "Justice" and "liberty"
as though they stand for objective universal truths.
MoQ rejects objective universal views.

-Ron


 



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From: blue-jay maple <libertytree at mail.com>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Monday, June 8, 2009 9:31:25 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] NAP



> Ron:
> I have only these quotes, which I agree with, to provide an 
> understanding about
> why I think the idea of natural law and MoQ conflict.
> by Pierre Charron in his De la sagesse (1601): "The sign of a 
> natural law must be the universal respect in which it is held, for 
> if there was anything that nature had truly commanded us to do, we 
> would undoubtedly obey it universally: not only would every nation 
> respect it, but every individual. Instead there is nothing in the 
> world that is not subject to contradiction and dispute, nothing 
> that is not rejected, not just by one nation, but by many; equally, 
> there is nothing that is strange and (in the opinion of many) 
> unnatural that is not approved in many countries, and authorized by 
> their customs."

Nick:
What Pierre Charron doesn't realize is free-will.  Natural Law is completely 
about free-will.  This is why when natural law is understood those that 
violate it are brought to justice.  Justice is born of Liberty.  Pierre Charron 
seems to be talking about Newtonian applications of natural law which completely 
perverts it's real meaning.

Ron:
> And
> "Aristotle
> Greek philosophy emphasized the distinction between "nature" 
> (physis, φúσις) on the one hand and "law", "custom", or 
> "convention" (nomos, νóμος) on the other. What the law 
> commanded varied from place to place, but what was "by nature" 
> should be the same everywhere. A "law of nature" would therefore 
> have had the flavor more of a paradox than something which 
> obviously existed."

Nick:
Liberty is a natural law.  It makes no bias except to bring justice.  Justice 
to those that violate liberty, life (person), and property.  That's it so it's not 
a very long understanding to master.  So since liberty molds no bias various 
social customs flourish everywhere.  Billions of people on this earth 
demonstrate how liberty does not bias and thus why the unique diversity in 
the billions.

thanks

Nick


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