[MD] NAP

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> 
> Ron:
> This is the problem, If peoples perception of what those concepts mean
> change then the concepts themselves have changed.

Nick:
Bingo!  They would.  But these concepts have been passed down without 
veering from their definitions.  So these concepts haven't changed in meaning.

Ron:
Then all should understand "liberty" and "justice" then. Which you say they do not.

Ron prev:
> making "Justice" and "liberty" contextual.
> If they are contextual they do not have a universal meaning do they?

Nick:
They do in human nature.  Not universal such as gravity is liberty or just.  I wouldn't 
even know where to begin on that one.  The natural law of gravity, now what does 
that have to do with concepts born in my mind?
Liberty is universal in human nature.  Natural rights do not include animals.  Natural 
rights are of rational animals. 

Ron:
Pirsig says that gravity is a concept.Goes into great length about it. Same as justice
and liberty. 

If natural rights do not apply to all living beings only to humans, then it is only
reasonable to assume that they are of human origin and not inherant in nature.




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