[MD] Why the quality of the modern world is no good.

[Dan Glover]

Hello everyone

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> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:28:14 -0700
> From: ridgecoyote at gmail.com
> To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
> Subject: Re: [MD] Why the quality of the modern world is no good.
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 4:49 AM, X Acto wrote:
>
> Ron:
>> As I see it, potential must be crafted, it is a skill. As I read Plato's
>> Socratic
>> dialogs, I have come to see "love" as Pirsig uses "preference" only the
>> term love
>> suggests "desire." To me, Love seems like a more accurate word to use
>> to describe the pull or drive of evolution or DQ.
>>
>> The Buddists say that desire or preference is the root of suffering but if
>> this is true and the universe is composed of desire then the skill is the
>> mastery of it, the
>> tempering of it. Much like Socrates analogy of the charioteers, as one
>> grows
>> older and practices this art, it becomes easier to temper.
>>
>> It makes for an interesting interpretation of Quality.
>
>
>John:
> Desire vs Love:
>
> Desire wishes to obtain for the self
>
> Love cares about other
>
> So "desire is the root of all suffering" and "God is Love" are not mutually
> exclusive?

Dan:
I don't know... there are different kinds of desire. Desire that my children and grandchildren have a good life is more about others (in a SOM sense) than desire to feed my face a cheeseburger.

Furthermore I think it is unproductive to say desire is the root of all suffering. We all desire a better life -- good food to eat, a roof over our head, a place in the world -- for our own self as well as for those we love. There is nothing wrong with that.

Every person reading this will be dead in a hundred years; more than likely everyone they know will be dead too. The loss we feel when we come to realize that the world is temporal is the root of suffering. There is nothing anyone can do about that.

Suffering drives evolution. Without suffering the world might well be but a ball of primordial slime (though according to some that might be an improvement over the modern world).
 
Thanks for reading,
 
Dan 




 
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