[MD] Skepticism&Behaviour

[MarshaV]

Greetings All,

At least Bo has stuck with this forum.  Many others have just 
disappeared.  Whether I agree with Bo or not, thank goodness he was 
here as someone to bounce my ideas off.  I needed him.  I needed him 
to challenge me.  I still do.  My understanding may not be perfect, 
but it is broader, deeper and stronger because of Bo.  Take for 
instance DMB.  I adore Dave, but mostly I agree with what he 
says   No challenge there.  And I can be soooo lazy.  I would say the 
same of Ham and Platt.  They make me think.  They make me work.  And 
in spite of the call of enlightenment, I love to try to solve 
metaphysical puzzles.  I really do want to know what I know and how I 
know it.  I think it's a sickness I was born with.

And I sometimes think all Bo is stating is that both the Social and 
Intellectual levels are s/o dualistic, but that it is only the 
Intellectual level that is conscious of it. I cannot disagree with 
this evaluation.  -  I still see the sq-moq as an intellectual 
pattern.  I cannot make heads or tails of either his logic or 
justifications for thinking that destroys the MOQ.  So I can still 
find areas of disagreement.

Bravo to Bo, and boooo to the lurkers who do not participate.


Marsha








At 06:59 AM 3/19/2009, you wrote:
>Bo,
>what pisses me off is that you developed the germ of a pretty
>interesting concept 12yrs ago and have rested on it. pitched
>a tent on it, drew a line in the sand and declared yourself
>king. You distort and twist Robert Pirsigs words and eveyone
>else who does not agree with you. You are either dilusional
>or a compulsive liar.
>What pisses me off is after following along with your thread with DmB
>where he points to each flaw and reason for it, inch by inch and handed
>you your own ass as a crown to wear for all to see, you declare victory
>and vindication. I mean, what the heck?
>There is a line between steadfast and ignorance and I think you
>crossed it years ago.
>But you are all correct, if I do not like what you say I should
>just stop reading you posts. But you are so bombastic that
>it becomes difficult at times.
>I will not interupt again even if I do think you are talking out your
>ass.
>
>the emperor indeed, has no cloths.
>
>-Ron
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>From: "skutvik at online.no" <skutvik at online.no>
>To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
>Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 3:29:55 AM
>Subject: Re: [MD] Skepticism&Behaviour
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>Michael and Andre
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>17 March.
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>Michael writes:
> > The degree of personal vindiction in here is thick enough to cut with
> > a knife. Its too bad.. It makes thinking things through with words in
> > here *very* difficult. Why can't we all agree to respect each others'
> > views, listen to ideas and thoughts, debate them, even with vigor, but
> > not make it *personal*? There are some here who seem to have no
> > problem doing so.
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>Hi Michael
>If this pertains to Ron Kulp's "blow-out" I certainly agree about
>listening to ideas, but never mind him. Not to get personal, but he
>is desperate for attention and when I don't bother with him he gets
>pissed. I've been through such before and am impervious, if only
>the MOQ (as I interprets it) serves me I'm fine.
>
>Andre writes:
> > I know that Bodvar can look after himself but do want to say this: I
> > cannot think of anyone here on this Discuss being more committed to the
> > MoQ than he is. He has defended his SOL/ MOQ position for more than ten
> > years now and has copped flack from many. He has also pulled many into
> > line when he felt they were straying too far from the MoQ path. And has
> > been appreciated for that!
>
>Thanks a lot Andre, I may be single-minded to the point of
>monomania and have "pestered" this discussion with the SOL
>interpretation of the MOQ for X years, but for the reason that it IS
>the MOQ and by now there is no opposition to it except when
>people has to take a stand, then they either "don't understand" or
>"the MOQ is Pirsig's property" *).
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>*) Note that Pirsig always says "..the MOQ", never "my MOQ"
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>Bodvar
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