[MD] Chance v. Dynamic Quality

MarshaV marshalz at charter.net
Sat Mar 21 11:29:14 PDT 2009


At 01:15 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote:
> > At 12:13 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote:
> > >[Marsha]
> > > > For Pete's sake, the DQ is always there, but awareness is not.   -
> > >
> > >You mean like God, always there but awareness of Her is not?
> > >Doesn't make much sense, does it?
> > >
> > >Platt
> >
> >
> > Greeting Platt,
> >
> > God? Is that some kind of toothpaste?
> >
> > I understand DQ and sq to be mutual interdependent.  Because of the
> > habit of thinking that sq (self and objects) are reality, awareness
> > of DQ has been ignored and almost lost.  You can, though, see through
> > sq to ???
>
>Hi Marsha,
>
>Suppose I say, "Because of the habit of sq thinking that God isn't real,
>awareness of God has been ignored and almost lost. You can, though, see
>through your though sq habit to ???"
>
>Doesn't make much sense, does it?

Greetings Platt,

I have said many times god does not exist for me and does not not 
exist for me.  The concept has no meaning, so I do not know what you 
are talking about.


>Please understand I do not deny the experience of DQ that "stops you in
>your tracks.".

I never said anything like "stops you in your tracks."


>It's just not something I experience every day.

Nor am I aware of such experiences everyday.


>Nor do I
>deny a mystic experience of a transcendent reality, nor any experience that
>profoundly affects someone, whether it's claimed to have come from God or
>not.

Again that word 'god'?  I've dropped it from my understanding of 
meaningful concepts.


>While Pirsig is a devout atheist, let us not forget his observation
>that: "The Metaphysics of Quality identifies religious mysticism with
>Dynamic Quality."

Religious mysticism may be an experience of DQ, that doesn't mean 
that DQ is a religious experience.


Marsha







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