[MD] Chance v. Dynamic Quality

[Platt Holden]

> At 01:15 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote:
> > > At 12:13 PM 3/21/2009, you wrote:
> > > >[Marsha]
> > > > > For Pete's sake, the DQ is always there, but awareness is not.  
> -
> > > >
> > > >You mean like God, always there but awareness of Her is not?
> > > >Doesn't make much sense, does it?
> > > >
> > > >Platt
> > >
> > >
> > > Greeting Platt,
> > >
> > > God? Is that some kind of toothpaste?
> > >
> > > I understand DQ and sq to be mutual interdependent.  Because of the
> > > habit of thinking that sq (self and objects) are reality, awareness
> > > of DQ has been ignored and almost lost.  You can, though, see
> through
> > > sq to ???
> >
> >Hi Marsha,
> >
> >Suppose I say, "Because of the habit of sq thinking that God isn't
> real,
> >awareness of God has been ignored and almost lost. You can, though, see
> >through your though sq habit to ???"
> >
> >Doesn't make much sense, does it?
> 
> Greetings Platt,
> 
> I have said many times god does not exist for me and does not not 
> exist for me.  The concept has no meaning, so I do not know what you 
> are talking about.
> 
> 
> >Please understand I do not deny the experience of DQ that "stops you in
> >your tracks.".
> 
> I never said anything like "stops you in your tracks."
> 
> 
> >It's just not something I experience every day.
> 
> Nor am I aware of such experiences everyday.
> 
> 
> >Nor do I
> >deny a mystic experience of a transcendent reality, nor any experience
> that
> >profoundly affects someone, whether it's claimed to have come from God
> or
> >not.
> 
> Again that word 'god'?  I've dropped it from my understanding of 
> meaningful concepts.
> 
> 
> >While Pirsig is a devout atheist, let us not forget his observation
> >that: "The Metaphysics of Quality identifies religious mysticism with
> >Dynamic Quality."
> 
> Religious mysticism may be an experience of DQ, that doesn't mean 
> that DQ is a religious experience.

You get the last word. 

Platt