[MD] suspended in language

MarshaV valkyr at att.net
Mon Nov 2 01:44:37 PST 2009


Hi Matt,

I just received my own copy of the Zilioli book, 'Protagoras and the
Challenge of Relativism'.  It is excellent and I really needed to have my
own book to mark up with marginal notes.  I also ordered 'The Truth About
Relativism' by Joseph Margolis and 'The Origins of Democratic Thinking: The
Invention of Politics in Classical Athens' by Cynthia Farrar.  But I
remembered your cautionary statement "Relativism can be a lonely place, and
not just because Plato made Protagoras out to be a bad guy."  I really think
the MoQ is relativistic.  My thinking is that by understanding we're all in
the same relativistic (epistemologically and ontologically)boat, can only
bring about feelings of compassion.


Marsha


 
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Subject: Re: [MD] suspended in language


One of the rhetorical bonuses of relativism is that it radically endorses
the desire to go it alone.

One of my growing suspicions about you, Marsha, punched up by your
endorsement of a slogan like "we are suspended in language" (one that enters
fully into a tradition that includes the Romantics, Emerson, Nietzsche,
Heidegger, Derrida, Quine, Sellars, and most notoriously in America in the
last 50 years, Rorty), is that you prefer to be alone in your philosophy.
Often times in the discussion group of late, it has seemed to me that people
who'd otherwise be your friends, you'd rather not.

Relativism can be a lonely place, and not just because Plato made Protagoras
out to be a bad guy.

Matt

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> Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 05:21:59 -0400
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