[MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness
craigerb at comcast.net
craigerb at comcast.net
Thu Nov 12 16:48:09 PST 2009
> [Platt]
> Pirsig claims the MOQ explains ultimate reality. From his annotations to
> the Copleston paper:
> "The MOQ, on the other hand, explains evil in evolutionary terms that
> are compatible with its theory of ultimate reality."
> [Craig, peviously]
> This quote of course does not say the explanation is an ULTIMATE
> explanation, only that it is "compatible with the MoQ theory of ultimate reality."
[Platt]
> You're confusing an ultimate explanation with ultimate reality.
You missed my point, which was that an ultimate explanation is distinct
from (but compatible with) an ultimate reality.
> [Craig, previously ]
> Do we have a complete understanding of the MoQ?
> If not then we don't have an ulltimate explanation.
[Platt]
> You're confusing understanding with explanation.
The 2 are very closely related. I can memorize an explanation &
recite it back without any understanding. But in normal circumstances
we test a person's understanding by asking them to explain.
[Craig, previously]
> Why is there quality rather than none?
[Platt]
> Pirsig answers ... " . . . a world from
> which value is subtracted becomes unrecognizable." (Lila, 9)
This answers the question "How do we know there is quality/value".
It doesn't answer the question "Why is there?"
Perhaps we need to distinguish 2 senses of "ultimate explanation".
In the strong sense an "ultimate explanation" would explain
everything: there would be no mysteries or uncertainties.
In the weak sense an "ultimate explanation" would explain
everything that can be explained.
I don't think an ultimate explanation in the strong sense is possible &
without it, I don't think we could ever know we had an
"ultimate explanation" in the weak sense.
The MoQ might be a FUNDAMENTAL explantion.
I.e., an explanation that no other explanation can be more
fundamental than. But can we know this or only keep
challenging it.
Craig
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