[MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness

X Acto xacto at rocketmail.com
Sat Nov 14 08:47:34 PST 2009


Arlo,
Interesting subject matter, in the spirit of abstraction, the evidence of freedom
and free will is decay and death. Quality seems to be purposful in the basic
notion of desire. But for desire to be free, decay must "be".
The codependant arising of difference Ham mentioned.
(which he seems to have figured out in a airconditioner type system)
But out of all this, it occurred to me that a interesting metaphor for
DQ is undefined difference, I interpret from Marsha's position that difference
is co-dependant. But, it could also be seen as fluctuation of one phenomena
Which follows Pirsigs line of evaluation. Therefore distinction emerges from
the fluctuation of a single phenomena.To follow this through, fluctuation
simply is, no why, no how, questions are traps of their own asking that
lead one away into invention and abstraction in this sort of reduction.
Our culture tends to breed in the addiction of ultimate explainations
growing up in the myth of ultimate explainations, especially during the hey
day of the 40's and 50's when it seemed as if the ultimate answers were being
unlocked daily, and "progress" was a historical evolutionary fact, it's a small wonder
that the MoQ gets interpeted as it often does.
I think "addiction" to concepts is a good term to use. For it's the relation to these
concepts which define the "self". So when these concepts are attacked, the self
seems to be attacked, it's what defines their value ,the emotional attachment to
concepts.

-ron






----- Original Message ----
From: ARLO J BENSINGER JR <ajb102 at psu.edu>
To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 10:57:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MD] MOQ and the Future: An Inquiry into Usefulness

[Platt]
There's nothing to "justify." It's all there in black and white, plain as day. 

[Arlo]
You are saying that in LILA, its there and black and white, the support for
your assertion that the reason quarks evidence value preference is so "man" has
a recognizable cosmos?

Wow.

I suppose this holds true for everything? Or is there something that exercises
value preference NOT for the sake and glory of "man"?

[Platt]
Since you feel the need to "deconstruct" and spin it to reinforce your dogma of
creation-by-fluke, so be it. Far be it for me to dissuade you from your faith.

[Arlo]
I don't think I can name one rhetorical trick that is not in this beauty.
Kudos. One of the books. 




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