[MD] Emotions

[mark_maxwell at talktalk.net]

Hi Andre,

sorry it's taken a few days to reply.









Re. DQ is 'pure' experience.



Well, the argument from analogy suggests that it may not be.



The assertion that DQ is pure experience doesn't satisfy me - ipov's and spov's are postulated to be re-arranged by DQ, but that re-arranging is not experienced in any sense it seems to me - only a biological appreciation and subsequent sanctioning are experienced.









The Dynamic experiences you list all have an emotional component which raised the initial question.









Re. Quality free experiences.



I was thinking about this on a bus journey, and the thought occurred to me that 'beginners mind' may be quality free because beginners mind has no preferences. It is values for this very reason.



It could be argued that BM is pure experience - DQ, but you suggested in a previous post that BM is emotional:



'Curiosity', a 'beginner's mind' attitude. If you consider these
'emotional' states then you are correct Squonk.


All the best,
squonk






-----Original Message-----

From: Andre Broersen <andrebroersen at gmail.com>

To: moq_discuss at moqtalk.org

Sent: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 16:32

Subject: Re: [MD] Emotions











Squonk to Andre:
A critical thinker may note here that, ?It is RMP?s interpretation that??

Andre:
I thought we were discussing the MoQ, Squonk, which is RMP's creation.
I value his interpretation very highly and certainly do not feel
equipped to challenge him at this stage.

Squonk:
This assumes the realm of the conceptually unknown to be appreciable
of an aesthetic. Most of it may be, but some of it may not be?
For example, many undifferentiated experiences are low quality, which
may suggest there to be ?quality free? experiences.

Andre:
Not sure what you mean here...'quality free' experiences. Are you now
using quality as an adjective? Any examples?

Squonk:
'...Humans have to be doing something in order to occupy themselves'

'DQ is never directly experienced'.

Andre:
Says who Squonk? Are you projecting? When's the last time you read
ZMM? Or Lila for that matter. Had sex, listened to Rachmaninov's 3rd
piano concerto, saw a painting, went for a walk, saw a sunset, saw a
baby, etc, etc, etc.?

DQ is 'pure' experience, the word 'directly' is superfluous

The first split is DQ/SQ. DQ, unpatterned experience/ SQ, patterned
experience, analogues upon analogues upon analogues at all levels.

Imho
Andre
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