[MD] in defence of the "relative"

[Matt Kundert]

Ron said:
What has me disagreeing about "all" being relative is the 
universal basic response to the hot stove/ analogy Pirsig 
makes

Matt:
That used to be Platt's favorite line when trying to 
self-destruct relativism (might still be for all I know).  I 
asked once about the masochist, though: he doesn't feel 
low quality.  So what's so universal about the stove, 
except for causality (which we already knew about)?
 		 	   		  
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