[MD] The Word is Not the Thing

[Andre Broersen]

PLatt and Bodvar's reaction:
And so it is with the MOQ. It's intellectual pattern contained in ZAMM
and Lila is the map at the intellectual level. Dynamic quality
experience is the territory. Many focus on the former and call it the
MOQ. Bo focuses on the latter and calls it the MOQ. Like the heads and tails
of a coin, both are right.

Hmmm, lets see what Andre says.

Andre maintains that indeed it is in this sense that the intellectual level
is lying. One is that it objectifies/stultifies/halts reality
(experience)...captures it in a snapshot/photograph. The other is that, as
soon as intellect is involved...you have missed it. It has to do with the
time-lapse Pirsig talks about between experience and realising you have the
experience.
But this doesn't sit nicely with me.

PLatt:
 'As a description of reality it's a static intellectual pattern. As
 the central reality it's Dynamic -- beyond words.' (Pirsig)

Andre:
So it seems.

Bodvar:
Maps can change terrain, words can alter reality,
symbols can kill  ... those who believe in it and that's the point.

Andre:
And terrains change maps, and reality alters words and symbols can bind
because nothing is fixed/permanent.
But some things appear more pervasive and permanent than others.

Andre