[MD] Uncertainty

[plattholden at gmail.com]

On 24 Sep 2009 at 17:19, Arlo Bensinger wrote:

> [Platt]
> Seems that you assume in your scenario that atoms and other inorganic 
> patterns (physical laws) are permanent.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Hardly. My guess is that there will come a "time" when the inorganic 
> level will no longer exist.

Deos that mean that there will come a time when nothing exists? 

> [Platt]
> Seems in this scenario that there will always be patterns of one sort 
> or another. In fact, the more you give examples, the more it seems 
> everything doesn't change.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Hardly. The more examples I give, the more you search for linguistic 
> paradox in my words. Kudos! You'll find it!! Amazing!! Who'd'a thunk that!!!

Self-contradictory, yes. Because your examples are incoherent. They 
don't make sense..  

> [Platt]
> Perhaps you can come up with some examples of "everything changes" in 
> which something permanent doesn't have to be acknowledged.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Nothing is permanent. Only various degrees of stability.

So stability is permanent?   

> [Platt]
> Further, perhaps you can explain how the score of Penn State's last 
> football game will change. . Wasn't in Penn State 31, Temple 6?
> 
> [Arlo]
> Scores have been changed in the past, upon review, it is not 
> unprecedented. Who am I to say that in a decade, a year, a century, a 
> review board won't examine footage and re-record the score as 
> something different? Moreover, the "score" as an social pattern will 
> cease to exist entirely one day. I mean, I am sure there are scores 
> from thousands of games in human history that are no longer known, 
> whose records have disappeared... In a thousand years, ten thousand?...

Seems the drift to nonexistence is permanent.   

> Some times things do not change, perceptibly, over eons. Its a matter 
> of focus and zoom. The sun, when examined at the molecular level, is 
> a writhing ocean of flux. When examined as our inter-solar system 
> center, it appears to be "unchanging" over billions of years. The 
> Rockie Mountains are in a constant state of erosion, but they will (I 
> hope!) be around for a long time to come (I have my doubts about 
> people being around to enjoy them, though)... But, on the massive 
> scale of the universe, the "Rockies" exist only in the "blink of an 
> eye", even though to someone living there, they "seem" unchanging 
> over many, many years...

Seems you assume time is permanent..