[MD] a view

[MarshaV]

Hello Bo,

I understand a pattern to be a sequence/repetition, having a beginning, 
a middle and an end, thus ever-changing and impermanent.  DQ is always 
present, yes?   


Marsha
 
 
 



On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Skutvik wrote:

> Hi Marsha
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> 2 Apr. you wrote:
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>> This is how I understand the Intellectual (SOM) Level. From 
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>> the SOM perspective, there is the unknown and the known. 
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>> The known uses language as its primary tool. Language has been 
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>> built hand-in-hand with human understanding of reality, they have
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>> evolved together, and they reflect reality as subjects and objects,
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>> our language and subject-object metaphysics are interrelated. (In the
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>> Social Level, this s-o understanding is unconscious.) In the
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>> Intellectual Level the subject-object split is conscious, and has
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>> undergone a dissection to strip the `subjective´ from influencing our
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>> search for the external Truth in Nature. The Intellectual Level
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>> represents a formal Subject-Object Metaphysics, SOM, and is
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>> interconnected with the language we use to organize concepts and
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>> assign meaning. This is accomplished by giving concepts artificial
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>> boundaries and imaginary independence.
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> 
> An impressive analysis. I recognize the difficulty in this "SOM-as-
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> MOQ's 4th level/SOM-as-MOQ's-antagonist" juggling. The 
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> known/unknown as part of intellect's repertoire, but not in the sense of 
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> unknown=subjective and known=objective, merely as "knowledge". 
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> I think the S/O split isn't merely "unconscious" but completely absent 
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> at the social level, why it (social value) was regarded as Quality itself 
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> by ZAMM (the Aretê that SOM =intellect ousted from 
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> the scene)
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>> From the MoQ perspective, Reality = Quality(DQ(unpatterned 
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>> experience)/sq(patterned experience(inorganic, biological, social,
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>> intellectual & code of art))). Every pattern contained within every
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>> level, including intellectual static patterns of value, is represented
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>> in that `sq´. Patterns are provisional, interrelated, ever-changing,
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>> and impermanent. 
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> Static patterns as interrelated, "yes", but ever-changing and impermanent"
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> ... hmmm. "Static" means never changing - not having the capacity for 
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> change until DQ prods it. I would say the static levels and patterns are 
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> "incomplete" compared to the DQ/SQ which is the complete 
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> configuration.  
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> Bodvar
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