[MD] a view

[MarshaV]

Hello again,

To account for the variations of a pattern, I like to use the 
double negative, or pattern-x is opposite-from-non-pattern-x.
There could be a lot of individual variation within that
type of definition.   


Marsha



On Apr 4, 2010, at 4:08 AM, MarshaV wrote:

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> 
> Hello Bo,
> 
> I understand a pattern to be a sequence/repetition, having a beginning, 
> a middle and an end, thus ever-changing and impermanent.  DQ is always 
> present, yes?   
> 
> 
> Marsha
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> On Apr 3, 2010, at 11:28 AM, Bodvar Skutvik wrote:
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>> Hi Marsha
>> 
>> 
>> 2 Apr. you wrote:
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>> 
>>> This is how I understand the Intellectual (SOM) Level. From 
>> 
>>> the SOM perspective, there is the unknown and the known. 
>> 
>>> The known uses language as its primary tool. Language has been 
>> 
>>> built hand-in-hand with human understanding of reality, they have
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>>> evolved together, and they reflect reality as subjects and objects,
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>>> our language and subject-object metaphysics are interrelated. (In the
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>>> Social Level, this s-o understanding is unconscious.) In the
>> 
>>> Intellectual Level the subject-object split is conscious, and has
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>>> undergone a dissection to strip the `subjective´ from influencing our
>> 
>>> search for the external Truth in Nature. The Intellectual Level
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>>> represents a formal Subject-Object Metaphysics, SOM, and is
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>>> interconnected with the language we use to organize concepts and
>> 
>>> assign meaning. This is accomplished by giving concepts artificial
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>>> boundaries and imaginary independence.
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>> 
>> An impressive analysis. I recognize the difficulty in this "SOM-as-
>> 
>> MOQ's 4th level/SOM-as-MOQ's-antagonist" juggling. The 
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>> known/unknown as part of intellect's repertoire, but not in the sense of 
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>> unknown=subjective and known=objective, merely as "knowledge". 
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>> 
>> I think the S/O split isn't merely "unconscious" but completely absent 
>> 
>> at the social level, why it (social value) was regarded as Quality itself 
>> 
>> by ZAMM (the Aretê that SOM =intellect ousted from 
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>> the scene)
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>> 
>>> From the MoQ perspective, Reality = Quality(DQ(unpatterned 
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>>> experience)/sq(patterned experience(inorganic, biological, social,
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>>> intellectual & code of art))). Every pattern contained within every
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>>> level, including intellectual static patterns of value, is represented
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>>> in that `sq´. Patterns are provisional, interrelated, ever-changing,
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>>> and impermanent. 
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>> 
>> Static patterns as interrelated, "yes", but ever-changing and impermanent"
>> 
>> ... hmmm. "Static" means never changing - not having the capacity for 
>> 
>> change until DQ prods it. I would say the static levels and patterns are 
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>> "incomplete" compared to the DQ/SQ which is the complete 
>> 
>> configuration.  
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>> 
>> Bodvar
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>> ?
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