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Arlo, Marsha, All

6 Apr. :

Pirsig via Marsha:
> > While sustaining biological and social patterns Kill all intellectual
> > patterns. Kill them completely And then follow Dynamic Quality And
> > morality will be served. (LILA, Chapter 32)  
  
Arlo:
> Why do you think its only static intellectual patterns that get in the
> way of following Dynamic Quality? ...

Because the 4th. level is both the springboard and the barrier to the 
MOQ. Existence (I avoid the personal here) has to reach intellect to 
reach the MOQ, yet as no level knows its Q-position intellect-as-SOM 
resists being degraded to a mere static Q-level with all means. I don't 
know your position of late Arlo but I guess you are part of the "keep the 
MOQ an intellectual pattern" movement and as long as that rules SOM 
rules. Intellect (as SOM) must be "killed", i.e. reduced to MOQ's fourth 
level before goodness will be served.       

> ....Why shouldn't we kill all static social patterns as well? 

The social level was killed in its "leading edge" position when the 
intellectual value took over that position.     

> Or maybe a few biological ones? 

Ditto regarding biology which was "killed" after social value started to 
use biology for its own purpose. In the a social-focussed culture like 
the Muslim the islamist movement can use (devour) the biology of the 
suicide bombers and "pilots" to forward their cause. (just one example) 

> In LILA, Pirsig comments on the morality of the hippie movement as it
> was against BOTH social AND intellectual patterns. Do you think this
> quote reflects a different position? 

Pirsig hopefully reflects the Quality position.

Bodvar