[MD] a view

[skutvik at online.no]

Hi Joe

12 Apr.:

Bo before:
> > Regarding  "chauvinism", if it is the Muslim
> > issue I consider the Western Culture to be "inferior" to the
> > Oriental in a Q-context and, mark you, this has no racial or
> > intelligence overtones. And I know (from a letter) that Pirsig
> > regarded the 11. September attacks  as a Q-social strike back at Q
> > intellect.

Joe: 
> When I try to understand your argument from Pirsig that the September
> 11 attacks were regarded by Pirsig as a Q-social strike back at Q
> intellect, I become a little bit confused.  I don¹t see that tall
> buildings are in themselves offensive.  However I do see that if I
> interpret the ³Q-social² response as a ³Q-emotional² response, then, I
> can be in sympathy with someone having an emotional aversion to
> buildings called ³World Trade Centers² in that it is an emotional
> affront to claim ³World Anything², by one nation.  Maybe, the World
> series in baseball, and the World boxing Championships, added
> emotional fuel to a smoldering fire against the arrogance of claiming
> global influence for insignificant sports when the world has gotten so
> much smaller by the advance of the means for transportation, like
> airplanes.  A little bit of competition.

It's no use speculating about why the WTC, Pentagon and/or the 
White House (where Flight 93  was headed) were chosen, I guess due 
to the spectacular effect. 

    One reason why fundamentalist Moslem cultures have 
    become so fanatic in their hatred of the West is that it has 
    released the biological forces of evil that Islam has fought for 
    centuries to control. (LILA p. 312)  

This is MOQ's gigantic overview, from inside the Islam  (religion) 
variety of the social level there is no recognition of being a bulwark 
against biological forces or anything. They (the islamists) only see the 
relentless Western pressure as a deadly danger to Islam (which it truly 
is). And the West is just as blind to its  Q-intellectual role, but sees its  
mission as that of development, democracy,  health, education ... etc. 
and can't understand why - for the instance - the Taleban resist their 
effort in Afghanistan..

Emotions as the social level's "expression" and "reason" as intellect's 
ditto aren't directly involved, but explains why/how people can be 
recruited for suicide actions like the 11. Sep "pilots". They hated the 
West so intensely and loved the Prophet accordingly as to be able to 
sacrifice their lives for the Great Cause. The chief "pilot" (Bhatta?) left 
notes of his deep emotional involvement). The West's intellectual- 
rational approach explain this in psychological terms as seduction 
an/or brainwash, but only the MOQ sees the big picture. But - alas - 
who wants the MOQ's view? 

Bodvar               

PS
One may also speculate on the wisdom of these attacks and the ones 
in London and Madrid, it's mostly resulted in a general disgust over a 
religion that can inspire such deeds. In this country it resulted in a 
prominent islam convert tore the "hijab" and left islam.  It's told (by his 
son) that Bin Laden wanted to lure the USA into the present quagmire 
it is in in Iraq and Afghanistan, and if so he succeeded.