[MD] Reading & Comprehension

[MarshaV]

Platt & Bo,

Now you two have me confused.  I understand it to be that
the Social Level is made of social-spovs, and the Intellectual 
(SOM) Level is made up of intellectual-spovs, and the Biological 
Level was made up of biological-spovs, etc., and that ALL 
patterns are conceptual.  

Wow!  What a mess.   


Marsha




On Apr 30, 2010, at 4:18 AM, skutvik at online.no wrote:

> Platt, Horse, Group.
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> 29 Apr.Platt said to Horse:
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>> Your wish is my command. Again, you conflate intellectual patterns of
>> value with the intellectual level. The two are separate concepts
>> (thoughts, ideas).  Intellectual patterns of value is a broad concept
>> that includes all sorts of ideas other than SOM that were used to find
>> food, detect danger and defeat enemies, most of them having to with
>> the activities of various Gods and spirits. So intellectual (thought)
>> patterns certainly did exist prior to SOM which wasn't a prominent
>> concept until the ancient Greeks came up with the idea.
> 
> Great show Platt, this and your previous posts, I must limit myself and 
> have been busy with DMB and his "bulldog" Andre, but you made my 
> day. The MOQ must sooner or later get out of "intellect's" grip i.e. that 
> of conflating thinking - intelligence - with the 4th. level - but from the 
> intense "flak" it will probably be later..   
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>> As for your final question, SOM didn't create the intellectual level.
>> A man named Pirsig did. Before him there was no "intellectual level"
>> as such.
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> I'll have to study Horse's argument to comment this. The MOQ is a 
> new reality and it's not easy to sort out the steps toward it. There is the 
> Phaedrus of ZAMM view and there is the author of ZAMM's view, then 
> there is the horse-MOQ (horse-latin) view and finally the MOQ's view 
> that you promote.
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