[MD] Natural Law
X Acto
xacto at rocketmail.com
Sun Aug 1 06:33:26 PDT 2010
John had said:
> However, intellect is the tool which we use to discover true morality,
> as Pirsig used his in his journey of discovery and thinking about the
> subject in his two books. Your equating SOM with intellect is
> confusing you.
Bodvar replies:
Intellect a tool, that's in SOM where the term "intellect" means turning
of mental wheels, but the MOQ's 4th. STATIC level is nothing of the
kind - it is SOM itself - and this "Copernican revolution" is hard to
grasp and makes an understanding of the MOQ so difficult.
The full static range must be completed before the MOQ can be
reached, it's impossible to go from the 3rd. level to the MOQ, but on
the other hand there is as much resistance from the 4th. level to be
transcended by the MOQ as there was (and still is) from the social
level to be transcended by the intellectual.
Thanks John - finally I understand what blocks your way to the MOQ.
Ron:
I thought Horse asked you nicely to stop peddeling the SOL interpretation
as the MoQ?
John had said:
> Remember how Ron kept asking how the SOL is any better at explanation?
> Well you just provided the perfect example of how it's actually much
> worse.
Bovar:
If it is what ails Ron? Perhaps. Anyway, the SOL is what gives the
MOQ its explanatory power demonstrated by Pirsig in LILA, every time
he really applies the MOQ he invariably ends in the conclusion that
Intellect = SOM
Ron:
John, it is rather limited, it offers little. While it does offer an explanation
about how differing levels conflict, it fails at the "why" , we get a
"because we like it" supporting the initial assertion of evolutionary
superiority. The value of superiority supplants the reasons, or explanations
of what makes some things better than others.
Bodvar, Horse asked you nicely. please stop the insistance that MOQ
asserts that SOM = intellect. We ought to be able to have discussions
without claims to interpretive legitimacy.....then again your case rests
soley on this empty assertion.
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