[MD] Babylonian intellectuals

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On 2 Aug 2010 at 8:05, skutvik at online.no wrote:

Platt 

1 Aug. 

Bo before;
> And intellect is "max security", to break out of it 
> lands it (intellect) as a subset of a greater system and THAT it won't
> have, and its henchmen strives to keep the MOQ an intellectual
> pattern, meaning that it can't escape regardless, the intellectual
> chains with ball follows it to the end of the world..   

Platt: 
> the following passage from Ken Wilber helps to explain why it's so
> hard to break out of the SOM prison:

    "One of the principal reasons that the dualistic or 'divide and 
    conquer' approach has been so pernicious is that the error of 
    dualism forms the root of intellection and is therefore next to 
    impossible to uproot by intellection. (Catch 22: If I have a fly in 
    my eye, how can I see I have fly in my eye?)"  

> SOM -- "the root of intellection" i.e., the root of the intellectual
> level. 

I liked that. What was it about Wilber that didn't fit the MOQ? At least 
this sounds like he's not only MOQist, but interpret intellect as S/O 
dualism as well. And its resistance to being superseded by a greater 
system is just spot on. I seem to remember DMB was a Wilber fan, 
hope he reads this.

Bo:

Unfortunately Wilber is a dedicated SOMist. His big schematic of reality is 
divided into Interior (Subjective) and Exterior (Objective). He offers a lot of 
interesting stuff about the Great Chain of Being, and his critiques of 
contemporary philosophical outlooks, like Postmodernism, are devastating. 
Still, he has precious little to offer about morals. They play no role in his 
analysis of evolution  In short, Wilber offers a feast of philosophical 
thought, but for me it's a matter of "Take what you want and leave the rest." 
      
Platt