[MD] Bo's right! For all the wrong reasons? (Part1)

[Krimel]

[Craig]
Pirsig says the choice of description is scientifically
irrelevant. So it doesn't follow that if it's not
scientifically one, then it's the other.

[Krimel]
But it does make a difference and a very big one. To say that iron filing
"prefer" proximity to magnet makes them causal agents. To make this work you
have to strip the word "preference" of a host of connotated meanings. When
you throw these implied meanings out, so the preference and cause are
equivalent, you have removed all of the distinctions that make the
substitution worthwhile in the first place. The bigger problem is those
extra meanings never really go away and speaking of inorganic preference is
never really equivalent to causation as Pirsig might wish.