[MD] MOQ Recursion

[ARLO J BENSINGER JR]

[Marsha]
Yes, it denotes Reality = Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience). 

[Arlo]
So there is "Quality", and then there is the "Metaphysics of Quality" which
describes Quality as being Reality. And yet you don't think this is a
"definition"? 

Also, is a "label" a static pattern of value? If not, what is it? According to
the Metaphysics of Quality, there is only DQ and SQ (static patterns of value),
if the Metaphysics of Quality is not a static pattern of value, and not Dynamic
Quality, you are introducing a new metaphysical aspect, "labels", that are
neither DQ nor SQ into the mix.

[Arlo previously]
Right, so you DO NOT think the "Metaphysics of Quality" is a definition or an
analysis at all?

[Marsha]
Within the Intellectual Level it represents ZMM, LILA, Lila's Child, and all
interviews, dvds, letters, papers and discussions used to divide, define and
know it.  

[Arlo]
What you are describing are things to divide, define and know Quality. Of these
things, Pirsig's metaphysics is one. 

In other words, the "Metaphysics of Quality" is an attempt to divide, define
and know Quality. 

Remember the "it's all just an analogy" in ZMM. Do you not think that the
"Metaphysics of Quality" is one such analogy used to talk about Quality? 

You really seem to confuse the undefinable (Quality) with Pirsig's attempt at a
definition (the Metaphysics of Quality). 

[Marsha]
Your label is Arlo.  My label is Marsha.

[Arlo]
"Arlo" is a social pattern of value (the "name" and its social use, of course).
It's value is in how it mediates social activity to enable greater
possibilities (inheritance, identity, responsibility, ownership, longitudinal
engagement, etc.) of agency.

Do you think "labels" are not patterns of value?