[MD] MOQ Recursion

[MarshaV]

On Aug 5, 2010, at 1:57 PM, Matt Kundert wrote:

> 
>> [Marsha]
>> For me the MoQ represents, denotes, signifies, Reality = Quality(unpatterned
>> experience/patterned experience).
>> 
>> [Arlo]
>> So the "Metaphysics of Quality" is a label, but it is not a definition or
>> analysis?? 
>> 
>> [Marsha]
>> I am saying that once the defining and analysis has started the 'MoQ' has
>> dropped into the Intellectual Level
> 
> Matt:
> Another way to apply Arlo's attempt to see what cards people are 
> holding is to ask:
> 
> Okay, granted "once the defining and analysis has started the 'MoQ' 
> has dropped into the Intellectual Level."
> 
> Then: Where was it before?  What is this place that the MoQ exists 
> and Falls from?

Marsha:
The MoQ as Reality = Quality(unpatterned experience/patterned experience).  


> I can appreciate you, Marsha, wanting to say just what you want to say, 
> but I think Arlo just wants to know what you mean.

Marsha:
I've been participating on this list for a long time, long enough to think 
Arlo gets his kicks from tying the discussion into linguistic knots. 


> Matt:
> You're defining 
> "labeling" as different than "definition," which is fair enough, but we 
> just need to know how and in what respects.  For you've also equated 
> "labeling" with "representing," "denoting," and "signifying."  And for 
> people like myself who are used to understanding "signification" as 
> something that can only be understood as contextualized in a pattern, 
> your pattern of labels and denotations seem counterintuitive.

Marsha:
Matt, you've already admitted that you do not write for me as a reader,
but for yourself.  I should have special consideration for you?  I think 
not.  My statements were clear enough.  Take them or leave them.


> Matt:
> To know 
> what you mean, we need to be helped to understanding how, in the 
> practical sense of what follows inferentially from what, you find them 
> intuitive.

Marsha:
From unpatterned experience/patterned experience.


 
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