[MD] Bo's right! For all the wrong reasons? (Part1)

skutvik at online.no skutvik at online.no
Fri Aug 6 00:47:34 PDT 2010


WaveDave (I just can't forget your once pet name) 

3 Aug. you wrote something that looked like a farewell to the MD and I 
regret that. These your two last post were much needed summaries of 
a decade of struggling with Pirsig's Metaphysics of Quality and if my 
name were included in the thread it's because - IMHO - I've brought it 
back to Phaedrus original form. Not that the said form was complete, 
but it contained the most important part, namely "intellect as SOM" the 
introduction of the 3 levels before intellect poses no problem if only the 
4th. level' "nature" is what it was meant to be. 

In other words we have reached a milestone, no longer can the sub-
set "intellect" devour the total MOQ by the outrageous claim that the 
MOQ is an intellectual pattern and - further - that intellect can be put 
right by rising on top of the SOM inside this mind-like construct. This is 
what hs ailed the MOQ from day one. What caused Pirsig to clown 
around with his own grand creation is a mystery, an even worse joke is 
the Quality/MOQ "meta-metaphysics" and that will have to be the next 
target. 

Too bad you see some totally irrelevant issues as the flaw, all this is 
made good by SOL's "strong interpretation".

D2:
> You have always claimed that Pirsig's MoQ was screwed up and now after
> 15 years you have convinced me. Thank You. The only difference in our
> positions is that you think it is salvageable by your modifications to
> the intellectual level and I don't think it's salvageable at all. But
> that's a good thing, at least for me. I learned a lot here, I no
> longer have to beat my head against the wall trying to understand a
> untenable theory, and I can move on.

Dave riding into the sunset. Welcome back any time. 

Bodvar  







 











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